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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2010, 06:38:35 PM »

David, you might also want to include the different pitch types for ocarina (Bass, Tenor, Alto, Soprano) and also include contrabass
Also i was looking at some Italian ocarinas and they had Sol 1, Do 2, Sol 3, Do 4, Sol 5 on them (smallest to largest) I believe this is a fingering system although I may be wrong. Any way you might want to include what those mean.  
Edit: Sorry I actually did mean to say scaling system not fingering.
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2010, 01:46:57 PM »

David, you might also want to include the different pitch types for ocarina (Bass, Tenor, Alto, Soprano) and also include contrabass
Also i was looking at some Italian ocarinas and they had Sol 1, Do 2, Sol 3, Do 4, Sol 5 on them (smallest to largest) I believe this is a fingering system although I may be wrong. Any way you might want to include what those mean. 
Do Re Me Fa Sol La Ti Do is the scale system.  Sol 1 would be F1 scale where Do 1 would be C1 scale, if my reasoning is correct... xD
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2010, 03:51:13 PM »

The explanation is right, only your counting isn't.  Wink Sol is the fifth note in C major: G.
The numbers start at "1" for the highest ocarina that Donati made, which is equivalent to our "soprano" C. Then follow ocarinas alternately in G and C, down to the contrabass C7.

The Budrio names with their fundamental notes, first in scientific pitch notation and then in Helmholtz pitch notation, and then in common modern names:

Do 1 = C6 = c''' = "Soprano C", Langley: "Mini"
Sol 2 = G5 = g'' = most often "Soprano G", STL: "Alto G", Langley: "Soprano"
Do 3 = C5 = c'' = most often "Alto C", STL: "Tenor C", Langley: "Alto"
Sol 4 = G4 =g' = most often "Alto G", STL has none, but if they had: "Baritone", Langley: "Tenor"
Do 5 = C4 = c' = most often "Bass C", STL: "Bass C", Zin: "Tenor", Langley: Bass
Sol 6 = G3 = g = I only know the Langley: Great Bass
Do 7 = C3 = c = most often "Contrabass", Langley: Mega Bass

I actually prefer the naming systems of STL's and Langley's ocarinas, because they follow a tradition that lasts for more than five centuries, and because they  have an equivalent in the human voices, where a soprano sings one octave higher than the tenor, and an alto one octave higher than the baritone or bass.
Soprano C, Alto G, Tenor C, Baritone G, Bass C, Great Bass in G and Contra Bass in G would be a logical way to name the instruments.
Or alternatively:
Sopranino C, Soprano G, Alto C, Tenor G, Bass C, Great Bass in G and Contra Bass in G.
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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2010, 05:48:54 PM »

I never took music theory Sad

But I'm glad you explained it!  Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2010, 09:24:14 PM »

Great thanks a lot for explaining it Poltergeist. By the way, I see that you own some Budrio ocarinas by your pic, you should do a review on them in the topic "Reviews" I would really appreciate it. Grin
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2010, 12:40:07 AM »

I'll think about it. But writing one review for five instruments is quite a task. Also I'd like to have a few more modern Asian type ocarinas to compare them to.
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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2010, 05:14:23 PM »

Sol 4 = G4 =g' = most often "Alto G", STL has none, but if they had: "Baritone", Langley: "Tenor"

STL has an Alto G and they call it a Tenor G, yo
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